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Pettit Group A

(R1b-FT58002)
Michael Cooley

Pettit R1b-FT58002 at FTDNA
Hybrid Tree
FTA57533 Hybrid Tree


Big Y Haplo Table


The following table is simply a bare summary of the results and can be copied and pasted into a spreadsheet. This is helpful for keeping track of larger projects. With the exception of those indicated by an asterisk, the novel SNPs (novel variants) can be tested at YSEQ.net for $18 each and a one-time kit fee of $6 for the first order.


 17 August 2026
KITTREEMRCATESTNOVEL VARIANTS
#IN86421FT58002>FT58330PettitY-700FTF78598 FTF80165 FTD56300 FTF77084
#MI41472FT58002>FT58330>FT58185James Pettit (c1655-)Y-700FTF4574 FTF5195 FTF6085 FTF6933 MF207020
#MI41471FT58002>FT58330>FT58185Robert Pettit (1688-1731)Y-700FTE20320
#323324FT58002>FT58330>FT58185Robert Pettit (c1717-c1792)Y-700FTC51836 FTC64023
#296049FT58002>FT58330>FT58185>FT58078William Pettit (c1771-c1827)Y-700--
#581028FT58002>FT58330>FT58185>FT58078William Pettit (c1771-c1827)Y-700FT58078 FTC73873 FTC73952
#429142FT58002>FTA57533Charles Pettit (1799-1879)Y-700FTA57561
#1006393FT58002>FTA57533Unknown PettitY-700FTF41282 FTF41446 FTF42385 24168590=GA MF39548
#500577FT58002>FTA57533>FT380561Amos Pettit (c1760-)Y-700FTC69427 FTC70063 FTC71763
#692053FT58002>FTA57533>FT380561Charles D Astor (c1849-)Y-700FTC61993 FTC66961 Y140860
#1012534FT58002>FTA57533>FT380561Henry Pettit (1809-1849)Y-700FTF71901
#967168FT58002>FTA57533>FT380561Joseph Pettit (1689-1765)Y-700FTC12895 FTC13709 FTC13961 FTC14155 A30120 BY9907
#951633FT58002>FTA57533>FT380561Joseph Pettit (1689-1765)Y-700FTC81278 FTC81788 MF232281 FTC80714 FTC80776 FTC86785
#970734FT58002>FTA57533>FT380561>FTC15762Joshua Pettit (1779-1857)Y-700--
#979984FT58002>FTA57533>FT380561>FTC15762Joshua Pettit (1779-1857)Y-700FTC15762 FTC94425 FTC93010
#974016FT58002>FTA57533>FTC44855John Pettit II (1638-1676)Y-700--
#50206FT58002>FTA57533>FTC44855John Pettit II (1638-1676)Y-700FTC45097

      * SNP cannot undergo Sanger testing




Big Y SNP Tree


A SNP (Single Nucleotide Polymorphism) occurs when there's a genetic change at a single position, for example an A mutated to a C. Each marker listed in the tree below is a SNP, and each one was manifested at the birth of a single man. This doesn't happen every generation but, if we had enough data, they'd all line up one after the other in a timeline. In other words, each of these markers is a direct representative of a specific man born at a specific time and place. For that reason, I like to say that "SNPs are people too." It's not literally true, of course, but conjures an image that is reasonably apropos.

Micro-Lesson: What is a SNP?
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Every marker above is a direct genetic representation of the first man born with that marker. However, each marker could represent three or four more men not born with a new, unique marker.

Count the number of markers upstream of any one kit. Then multiply that by four generations. I'll leave it to you detemine how many years makes a generation. This can be done for all kits descended from any one haplogroup. Average the grand total to get an average timeline for the haplogroup. The word "average" is, however, the key. The more participants, the more that number will change.



Quick Tree


This is a simplified, barebones, stripped-down SNP Tree (as above). It's called a Quick Tree merely because it can be created once new results are downloaded. It has the advantage of allowing a tested group member to easily trace their SNP lineage.


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Timeline Report for Haplogroup FT58002

FT58330
FT58576
FTF78598
FTF80165
FTD56300
FTF77084
FT58330
FT58576
FT57338
FT58185
FT58304
FTF4574
FTF5195
FTF6085
FTF6933
MF207020
FT58330
FT58576
FT57338
FT58185
FT58304
FTE20320
FT58330
FT58576
FT57338
FT58185
FT58304
FTC51836
FTC64023
FT58330
FT58576
FT57338
FT58185
FT58304
FT58078
--
FT58330
FT58576
FT57338
FT58185
FT58304
FT58078
FT58078
FTC73873
FTC73952
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FTA57561
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FTF41282
FTF41446
FTF42385
24168590=GA
MF39548
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FT380561
FTC69427
FTC70063
FTC71763
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FT380561
FTC61993
FTC66961
Y140860
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FT380561
FTF71901
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FT380561
FTC12895
FTC13709
FTC13961
FTC14155
A30120
BY9907
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FT380561
FTC81278
FTC81788
MF232281
FTC80714
FTC80776
FTC86785
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FT380561
FTC15762
--
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FT380561
FTC15762
FTC15762
FTC94425
FTC93010
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FTC44855
FTC44856
--
FTA56197
FTA57533
FTA58603
FTC14637
FTC44855
FTC44856
FTC45097
#IN86421
#MI41472
#MI41471
#323324
#296049
#581028
#429142
#1006393
#500577
#692053
#1012534
#967168
#951633
#970734
#979984
#974016
#50206
6
10
6
7
7
9
5
9
8
8
6
11
11
7
9
7
7

Total SNPs: 133
Number Kits: 17
Avg SNPS per: 7.82352941176471
TMRCA: 1167 CE to 1292 CE
Median: 1229 CE



Y-111 Genetic Distance to Modal


STRs (Short Tandem Repeats) are the markers found on the results page of every FTDNA project. They're completely different from SNPs. For example, the number in the first column for the following markers, labeled DYS393, is merely the count of the number of times the sequence AGAT is repeated in the tester's cells. More about the markers can be found on the Wikipedia page for List of Y-STR markers.

The top line in this graphic, in gray, is the modal value. It represents the most common value found among each tester. The total number of mismatches any one tester has to the modal is noted in blue parenthesis next to the tester's kit number. This number is referred to as the genetic distance or GD. For example, a tester might be a GD of 1 from the modal's CDYb marker but with a total GD of 5 from the modal as a whole.


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Y-111 GD Kit to Kit

Here we compare the genetic distance between each tester rather than to the modal. This gives us a better idea as to how closely the testers are related to one another as opposed each to the modal, or mutual ancestor. The results tend to clump together by haplogroup. However, due to the volatile nature of STRs, the clumping is often inconsistent, as shown by the same graphics in the somewhat larger YP4248 Subclade Project. For this reason, STRs are unreliable for phylogeny. Nevertheless, the study can help direct us toward those kits that could provide the greatest impact on the project for Big Y upgrades.

The color version results from replacing the numeric values with color values. This doesn't tell us much for small groups but can be informative for groups of ten and more.


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Color Version


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