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Pettit-Mellowes Y-DNA Project

(R1b-BY200368)
Michael Cooley

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The project now has three reasonably clear subclades: BY19412, F7174, and Y42738. This means we've genetically identified at least three clearcut branches of the Pettit-Mellowes family. They're not fully identified because we don't yet know at what generation the defining markers came to be, only that they emerged some time after BY200368 and by the birth of the tester. When matches of the same haplogroup are found, however, we know the member markers arose by the time of their Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA). In the case of F7174, the mutual ancestor is Samuel Pettit Jr (1790-1874). We now have an exacting Y-DNA profile for Samuel. At some point after the "birth" of the Pettit-Mellowes family and by his birth, the three markers of that haplogroup came into the lineage. The immediate question for that family is whether Samuel Sr had all three of them.

Remember, this is only by father-to-son transmission. Everything that came into the paternal lineage, the tester has and perhaps more because of the regular mutation of the Y chromosome.

Samuel Pettit Jr (1790-1874)
Samuel Gallagher Pettit (1819-1897) m Luemma Rose
Samuel Richard Pettit (1851-1929) m Lulu Glascoe
Cleveland Grover Pettit (1886-1950) m Rena Otten
Alfred Cleveland Pettit (1918-1984) Helvie Nieminen
HIDDEN Pettit
HIDDEN Kit #B224403



Big Y Haplo Table


The following table is simply a bare summary of the results and can be copied and pasted into a spreadsheet. This is helpful for keeping track of larger projects. With the exception of those indicated by an asterisk, the novel SNPs (novel variants) can be tested at YSEQ.net for $18 each and a one-time kit fee of $6 for the first order.


 29 January 2026
KITTREEMRCATESTNOVEL VARIANTS
#157822BY200368Andrew Pettit (1716-1748)Y-700FTC45168 FTC46001 FTC44926 FTC44949 FTC44951
#IN119877BY200368Charles Pettit (1730-1806)Y-700FTD18369 FTD18593 FTD18800 FTD22146 FTB14246 Y134523
#985026BY200368Charles Pettit (1813-1890)Y-700FTD25818 FTD26042 FTD26046 FTD26065 FTD26351 FTD26581 FTD27915 FTD28335
#972435BY200368Isaac Pettit (1817-1875)Y-700FGC95316 FTC34814
#764323BY200368Jonathan Pettit (1721-1768)Y-700Y163386 MF44765
#967030BY200368Jonathan Pettit (1724-1768)Y-700FTB83222 FTB80956 FTB86796
#940666BY200368Nathaniel Pettit I (c1645-c1718)Y-700FT417942 FT417620
#971002BY200368Sidney Pettit (c1842-1886)Y-700FTC2026 FTC1338 FTC1221 MF168216 M8230
#942738BY200368>BY198412George Pettit (1719-1775)Y-700FTA18503
#B388754BY200368>BY198412>FT55265Kenney J Pettit (1940-1974)Y-700--
#891469BY200368>BY198412>FT55265Kenney J Pettit (1940-1974)Y-700FT51308
#1010627BY200368>F22397Nehemiah Pettit (1755-1820)Y-700FTF64335 FTF66209 FTF66211 FTF63973
#974106BY200368>F22397Samuel Pettit Sr (1765-1845)Y-700FTC20239 FT345693
#873086BY200368>F22397>F7174Samuel Pettit Jr (1790-1874)Y-700--
#B224403BY200368>F22397>F7174Samuel Pettit Jr (1790-1874)Y-700FT224220
#914894BY200368>FTC17094Thomas Pettet (c1765-1830+)Y-700--
#129959BY200368>FTC17094Thomas Pettet (c1765-1830+)Y-700FTB67435
#940380BY200368>FTC17094Thomas Pettet (c1765-1830+)Y-700FTD7329 BY238588 FTD11580 FTD11837
#1034872BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712Henry Pettit Jr (1790-1858)2791500=GA
#1004873BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712Joshua Pettit (1734-1786)Y-700--
#493803BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712Joshua Pettit (1734-1786)Y-700FT413489 FT412480
#1003742BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712Joshua Pettit (1734-1786)Y-700FTE89529
#1012186BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712>FT187589Daniel Pettit (1812-)Y-700FTF57332
#933885BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712>FT187589Elijah Pettit (1790-)Y-700FT360602 FT360267 FT359279 FT187589
#B116528BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712>FT187589Nathaniel H Pettit (1813-1985)Y-700FTE54720 FTE55588 FTE59797
#998068BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712>FTE72289Ashford Pettit (1814-1894)Y-700FTE72623 MF136467 FTE77464 FTE72230
#1007602BY200368>Y42738.1>FT360712>FTE72289Ashford Pettit (1814-1894)Y-700FTF30175 22270965=AG
#941583BY200368>Y42738.1>FT95921FoxY-700--
#1012200BY200368>Y42738.1>FT95921James Pettit (1725-1770)Y-700FTF85459
#261925BY200368>Y42738.1>FT95921William Pettit (1779-c1845)Y-700FT97037
#989706BY200368>Y42738.1>FTB80412Edwin Pettit (1834-1924)Y-700--
#966963BY200368>Y42738.1>FTB80412Edwin Pettit (1834-1924)Y-700FTB80182 FTB86764
#1007195BY200368>Y42738.1>FTC22501Asa Pettit (1807-1897)Y-700--
#970030BY200368>Y42738.1>FTC22501Asa Pettit (1807-1897)Y-700FTC26178 FTC22910 FTC32624 FTC31882 BY176957

      * SNP cannot undergo Sanger testing




Big Y SNP Tree


A SNP (Single Nucleotide Polymorphism) occurs when there's a genetic change at a single position, for example an A mutated to a C. Each marker listed in the tree below is a SNP, and each one was manifested at the birth of a single man. This doesn't happen every generation but, if we had enough data, they'd all line up one after the other in a timeline. In other words, each of these markers is a direct representative of a specific man born at a specific time and place. For that reason, I like to say that "SNPs are people too." It's not literally true, of course, but conjures an image that is reasonably apropos.

Micro-Lesson: What is a SNP?
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Every marker above is a direct genetic representation of the first man born with that marker. However, each marker could represent three or four more men not born with a new, unique marker.

Count the number of markers upstream of any one kit. Then multiply that by four generations. I'll leave it to you detemine how many years makes a generation. This can be done for all kits descended from any one haplogroup. Average the grand total to get an average timeline for the haplogroup. The word "average" is, however, the key. The more participants, the more that number will change.



Quick Tree


This is a simplified, barebones, stripped-down SNP Tree (as above). It's called a Quick Tree merely because it can be created once new results are downloaded. It has the advantage of allowing a tested group member to easily trace their SNP lineage.


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Timeline Report for Haplogroup BY200368

FTC45168
FTC46001
FTC44926
FTC44949
FTC44951
FTD18369
FTD18593
FTD18800
FTD22146
FTB14246
Y134523
FTD25818
FTD26042
FTD26046
FTD26065
FTD26351
FTD26581
FTD27915
FTD28335
FGC95316
FTC34814
Y163386
MF44765
FTB83222
FTB80956
FTB86796
FT417942
FT417620
FTC2026
FTC1338
FTC1221
MF168216
M8230
BY198412
FT48652*
FT48708
FTA18503
BY198412
FT48652*
FT48708
FT55265
--
BY198412
FT48652*
FT48708
FT55265
FT51308
F22397
FT224089
FTF64335
FTF66209
FTF66211
FTF63973
F22397
FT224089
FTC20239
FT345693
F22397
FT224089
F7174
--
F22397
FT224089
F7174
FT224220
FTC17094
--
FTC17094
FTB67435
FTC17094
FTD7329
BY238588
FTD11580
FTD11837
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
2791500=GA
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
--
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
FT413489
FT412480
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
FTE89529
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
FT187589
FTF57332
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
FT187589
FT360602
FT360267
FT359279
FT187589
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
FT187589
FTE54720
FTE55588
FTE59797
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
FTE72289
FTE72623
MF136467
FTE77464
FTE72230
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT360712*
FT361138
FTE72289
FTF30175
22270965=AG
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT95921
--
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT95921
FTF85459
Y42738.1
Y42738
FT95921
FT97037
Y42738.1
Y42738
FTB80412
FTB80212
FTB83684
--
Y42738.1
Y42738
FTB80412
FTB80212
FTB83684
FTB80182
FTB86764
Y42738.1
Y42738
FTC22501
--
Y42738.1
Y42738
FTC22501
FTC26178
FTC22910
FTC32624
FTC31882
BY176957
#157822
#IN119877
#985026
#972435
#764323
#967030
#940666
#971002
#942738
#B388754
#891469
#1010627
#974106
#873086
#B224403
#914894
#129959
#940380
#1034872
#1004873
#493803
#1003742
#1012186
#933885
#B116528
#998068
#1007602
#941583
#1012200
#261925
#989706
#966963
#1007195
#970030
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Total SNPs: 171
Number Kits: 34
Avg SNPS per: 5.02941176470588
TMRCA: 1447 CE to 1527 CE
Median: 1487 CE



Y-111 Genetic Distance to Modal


STRs (Short Tandem Repeats) are the markers found on the results page of every FTDNA project. They're completely different from SNPs. For example, the number in the first column for the following markers, labeled DYS393, is merely the count of the number of times the sequence AGAT is repeated in the tester's cells. More about the markers can be found on the Wikipedia page for List of Y-STR markers.

The top line in this graphic, in gray, is the modal value. It represents the most common value found among each tester. The total number of mismatches any one tester has to the modal is noted in blue parenthesis next to the tester's kit number. This number is referred to as the genetic distance or GD. For example, a tester might be a GD of 1 from the modal's CDYb marker but with a total GD of 5 from the modal as a whole.


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Y-111 GD Kit to Kit

Here we compare the genetic distance between each tester rather than to the modal. This gives us a better idea as to how closely the testers are related to one another as opposed each to the modal, or mutual ancestor. The results tend to clump together by haplogroup. However, due to the volatile nature of STRs, the clumping is often inconsistent, as shown by the same graphics in the somewhat larger YP4248 Subclade Project. For this reason, STRs are unreliable for phylogeny. Nevertheless, the study can help direct us toward those kits that could provide the greatest impact on the project for Big Y upgrades.

The color version results from replacing the numeric values with color values. This doesn't tell us much for small groups but can be informative for groups of ten and more.


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Color Version


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