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Group B Duncan Y-DNA

(R1b-FGC33214)
Michael Cooley

Article: Three Y-DNA Duncan Haplotypes

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Big Y Haplo Table


The following table is simply a bare summary of the results and can be copied and pasted into a spreadsheet. This is helpful for keeping track of larger projects. With the exception of those indicated by an asterisk, the novel SNPs (novel variants) can be tested at YSEQ.net for $18 each and a one-time kit fee of $6 for the first order.


 25 August 2025
KITTREEMRCATESTNOVEL VARIANTS
#919030FGC19845>FTT35John McConaughy (1795-1856)Y-700FT252488 FT283981
#950630FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214Alfred H Duncan (1827-1912)Y-700--
#N22681FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214Bradford Duncan Smith (1783-1860)Y-700FTA58508 FTF19841
#1011024FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214John Duncan (c1781-1829)Y-700FTF41338 FTF51897
#219530FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214Marshall Duncan Jr (1739-1810)Y-700BY104414 BY144386 BY70067
#398696FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214Marshall Duncan Jr (1739-1810)Y-700FGC57787
#B5247FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214William Duncan (1690-1781)Y-700FTB99030
#917964FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>BY75435Marshall Duncan Sr (1705-1777)Y-700FT229465 FT229699 FT228300 FT228573
#202785FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>BY82809James Mann (1690-1756)Y-700FTE3674 FTE4750 FTE5985 FTE3140
#B561759FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FGC33215Charles Duncan (1742-1789)Y-700FTE39665 FTE40050 FTE38537
#873097FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FGC33215John Duncan Sr (-c1799)Y-700FT24713 FT19389
#50393FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FGC33215Lot Akin (1801-c1870)Y-700BY188226 BY188587
#B260276FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FGC33215Robert Duncan (-1793)Y-700FTF37953 FTF38208 FTF38584
#229946FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FT269028Charles Duncan (1761-1838)Y-700FT270451 FT270921 FT268802 FT269210 FT269324
#339306FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FT269028Elias Courtney (1786-1861)Y-700FTA95319 FTA96099 MF240162
#989458FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FT269028James Duncan (1808-)Y-700FTF75960
#989197FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FT269028James Duncan Sr (c1750)Y-700FTE3487 FTE6882
#852880FGC19845>FTT35>A1147>FGC33214>FT269028John Duncan (1832-1859)Y-700FTB9508
#473546FGC19845>FTT35>BY170283Robert Duncan (1759-1788)Y-700FTB98777 FTB98778 FTB98931 FTB98998 BY169248
#236057FGC19845>FTT35>FGC19852William McConaughey (c1785-)Y-700FTH43826 FTH54534 Y420059 FTH54564 FTH44032 FTH54591

      * SNP cannot undergo Sanger testing




Big Y SNP Tree


A SNP (Single Nucleotide Polymorphism) occurs when there's a genetic change at a single position, for example an A mutated to a C. Each marker listed in the tree below is a SNP, and each one was manifested at the birth of a single man. This doesn't happen every generation but, if we had enough data, they'd all line up one after the other in a timeline. In other words, each of these markers is a direct representative of a specific man born at a specific time and place. For that reason, I like to say that "SNPs are people too." It's not literally true, of course, but conjures an image that is reasonably apropos.

Micro-Lesson: What is a SNP?
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Every marker above is a direct genetic representation of the first man born with that marker. However, each marker could represent three or four more men not born with a new, unique marker.

Count the number of markers upstream of any one kit. Then multiply that by four generations. I'll leave it to you detemine how many years makes a generation. This can be done for all kits descended from any one haplogroup. Average the grand total to get an average timeline for the haplogroup. The word "average" is, however, the key. The more participants, the more that number will change.



Quick Tree


This is a simplified, barebones, stripped-down SNP Tree (as above). It's called a Quick Tree merely because it can be created once new results are downloaded. It has the advantage of allowing a tested group member to easily trace their SNP lineage.


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Timeline Report for Haplogroup FGC19845

FTT35
FGC57793
FT252488
FT283981
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
--
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FTA58508
FTF19841
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FTF41338
FTF51897
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
BY104414
BY144386
BY70067
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FGC57787
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FTB99030
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
BY75435
FT229465
FT229699
FT228300
FT228573
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
BY82809
FTE3674
FTE4750
FTE5985
FTE3140
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FGC33215
FTE39665
FTE40050
FTE38537
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FGC33215
FT24713
FT19389
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FGC33215
BY188226
BY188587
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FGC33215
FTF37953
FTF38208
FTF38584
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FT269028
FT270451
FT270921
FT268802
FT269210
FT269324
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FT269028
FTA95319
FTA96099
MF240162
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FT269028
FTF75960
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FT269028
FTE3487
FTE6882
FTT35
FGC57793
A1147
FGC33216
FGC33214
FGC57788
FGC57790
FGC57791
FT269028
FTB9508
FTT35
FGC57793
BY170283
FTB98777
FTB98778
FTB98931
FTB98998
BY169248
FTT35
FGC57793
FGC19852
FGC19853
FGC19854
FGC19857
FGC19858
FTH43826
FTH54534
Y420059
FTH54564
FTH44032
FTH54591
#919030
#950630
#N22681
#1011024
#219530
#398696
#B5247
#917964
#202785
#B561759
#873097
#50393
#B260276
#229946
#339306
#989458
#989197
#852880
#473546
#236057
4
9
10
10
11
9
9
13
13
12
11
11
12
14
12
10
11
10
8
13

Total SNPs: 212
Number Kits: 20
Avg SNPS per: 10.6
TMRCA: 890 CE to 1059 CE
Median: 974 CE



Y-111 Genetic Distance to Modal


STRs (Short Tandem Repeats) are the markers found on the results page of every FTDNA project. They're completely different from SNPs. For example, the number in the first column for the following markers, labeled DYS393, is merely the count of the number of times the sequence AGAT is repeated in the tester's cells. More about the markers can be found on the Wikipedia page for List of Y-STR markers.

The top line in this graphic, in gray, is the modal value. It represents the most common value found among each tester. The total number of mismatches any one tester has to the modal is noted in blue parenthesis next to the tester's kit number. This number is referred to as the genetic distance or GD. For example, a tester might be a GD of 1 from the modal's CDYb marker but with a total GD of 5 from the modal as a whole.


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Y-111 GD Kit to Kit

Here we compare the genetic distance between each tester rather than to the modal. This gives us a better idea as to how closely the testers are related to one another as opposed each to the modal, or mutual ancestor. The results tend to clump together by haplogroup. However, due to the volatile nature of STRs, the clumping is often inconsistent, as shown by the same graphics in the somewhat larger YP4248 Subclade Project. For this reason, STRs are unreliable for phylogeny. Nevertheless, the study can help direct us toward those kits that could provide the greatest impact on the project for Big Y upgrades.

The color version results from replacing the numeric values with color values. This doesn't tell us much for small groups but can be informative for groups of ten and more.


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Color Version


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