Y-DNA Report for Descendants
of John Bennett (1624) of Virginia

Michael Cooley, BA, MA

Some of you, perhaps all of you, received an email from the Bennett Project administrator, Cindy Smith, pointing you to my introductory "letter" and initial report for the Wiveliscombe Bennetts. It also included a link to a much fuller report for the Blackwater Bennetts. And both include descriptions about my interests in your Bennetts. Still, briefly, I'm a descendant of Richard Bennett, Cromwell's parliamentarian governor of Virginia during a few years of the English Civil Wars. I've been doing genealogy for more 45 years and genetic genealogy, especially the Y chromosome, for 16 years. I'd become aware of Richard with my introduction to genealogy in 1976 but considered it work that was done. However, a lot of questions were raised years ago when I first started poking around at FamilySearch.org, some of the "data" obviously spurious. It's taken years to get a foothold in the Bennett DNA door, but here I am — ready for answers, as well as to provide some.

Because this report is rather long and freewheeling, here is a preview list of links referred to and discussed below.

Basic Y-DNA Information

Your Y-DNA haplogroup is called R1b-BY172987.

The popularization of personal Y chromosomal sequencing (thanks largely to FTDNA) is the greatest tool in genealogy since the onset of the internet. The reason is straightforward. Yet it seems a lot of people, especially those with some autosomal testing experience (23andMe, etc), have trouble reconciling Y-DNA with the common understanding of DNA. If that's the case, just let that go and start fresh. The Y is simply inherited in a very different fashion from the other chromosomes. The first and simple and hard-fast rule is that because it passes from father to all sons (no daughters) as a virtual clone — and has since the beginning of the species — distantly-related men will have the same markers — as well as a handful of other markers that later emerged separately, and quite uniquely, along their respective lineages. Those small differences are the key to determining paternal genetic branching, branching that happens to correspond with the genealogical branching of a surname. Autosomal matches can come down from any ancestor and, aside from the simple computer interfaces provided, can be difficult to track up the tree. With the Y, however, the pathway is predetermined — straight up the father line, and that to the absolute exclusion of any other biological or ancestral explanation. Somewhere, in that lineage of Bennett ancestors, will be the common ancestors you share with your Y-DNA matches, male cousins of virtually any degree. The biological strength of the Y is given even additional power in that surnames — at least in our culture — are usually passed down the same paternal path. (Genetics operates from a biological near certainty while surnames is dictated by social convention — sometimes.) In other words, surnames can "lie" but genetics never does (although the interpretation can sometimes be off).

I've been in touch with each of the group's two Big Y testers (also known as the Y-700). For those of you who don't know what those tests are, they sequence up to 15 million positions on the Y and map out everything that differs from the standard model of the human genome. These differences are known as markers, a more polite word substitute for mutations. Mutations are most famously found in genes (and Hollywood horror movies). Genes are strings of genetic letters that comprise the recipes for any of a large number of proteins, those mutations that can cause disease or the propensity for disease. Most such markers, however, simply code for specific traits, such as eye color. However, genes make up only 1.5% of the genome. The remaining 98.5% of it was once referred to as Junk DNA. But since the completion of the Human Genome Project two decades ago, geneticists are finding purposes for that former "junk". We now know, for example, that some of it turns genes on and off. And some of it, it turns out, were genes that were rendered dysfunctional by mutation. I'm not a geneticist, but I suspect those genes may not have served a critical purpose; otherwise, we'd have become extinct — or evolved into a completely different species. In fact, some have pondered whether the removal of some of these now archaic genes helped put us on course toward anatomically modern humans. Although I'm not a geneticist, I suggest that most of these genetic bases (properly known as nucleotides) serve as a protective barrier for our all-important genes, that stuff that really counts and makes us who we are. In any event, Y-DNA markers are the rhetorical needle in a haystack of the 57 million genetic points on the Y chromosome. For evolutionary reasons, mutations are rare events.

In point of fact, the Y chromosome is nearly all "junk" and has only about 70 genes that exist largely to support the male sex gene (SRY gene). They are needed for hormone production and for other needed proteins. This makes the "non-coding" mutations perfect for genetic genealogy. They do nothing malicious and tend to stick around, and each from the time of its inception as a modest mutation of no consequence. Furthermore, they accumulate throughout the generations. In this, they are silent witnesses to the history of the bearer's paternal lineage, and each marks an ancestor's birth, as it's at birth that they're introduced into the population. These mutations happen, on average, about once every four generations or once a century. Of course, keep in mind that that estimate can vary remarkably from one generation to the next. Still, it can be used as a sort of genetic measuring stick, if not a terribly accurate one. That will improve as more data comes along. But it's fine to start with the expectation of a defining marker about once every four generations. And these mutations do more than mark an individual's birth. They're encoded in the DNA throughout the lifetime of the lineage, passed down to every male generation since that birth, designating a new genetic branch on the tree, and ending up as an archival history hidden within the cells of each tester. But there's another arm to this study. What we're engaged in is called genetic genealogy. Well worked out genetic trees can be seen as the scaffolding on to which the more detailed genealogy hangs. In fact, genetics borrows words from the human world: parent SNP, sibling SNP, and child SNP. (SNP is defined below.)

John Bennett Y-DNA Results

Governor Richard Bennett's Y chromosome, for all practical purposes, died with his grandson, Richard Bennett III, who had no children. But, as just described, Richard's Y was a clone of his dad's, of his grandfather's, and was the Y chromosome of all their sons and of all their distant cousins and their male descendants. They can be mined for in living descendants. Following is a link to the standard report I use for the groups and projects I work with. Each chart is introduced on the page so there's no need to do that here. Instead, I'll discuss only the SNP tree, the second graphic down: Wiveliscombe Bennetts.

The acronym SNP refers to a particular kind of marker, a single genetic letter that has flipped from one of the four values (A, C, T, and G) to another. For example, the marker that presently defines your group of Bennetts, BY172987, resulted with a mutation at position 8605809 of the Y chromosome. A molecule of T (thymine) mutated to a molecule of C (cytosine), the former of which (T) is possessed by nearly any other man. Again, these mutations do not influence biological functionality. Instead, scientists have found that they are archival in nature and hold the patrilineal genetic history for an entire lineage, each marker emerging before the next. (Of course, the timeline is not recorded, but it can be inferred through testing the relevant populations.) Y-DNA sequencing is a useful tool in archaeology, physical anthropology, and population genetics (the grandfather of genetic genealogy). It's even used for historical purposes (witness Carpark Richard). And it's those markers that are represented in your SNP tree at the above page. (Not mine, by the way! I have a rare set of Cooley Y-DNA markers.)

As so often happens, this Bennett group is starting out with a large collection of 35 SNPs at the top of the tree. Per an overly simplified formula, they represent 35 male individuals, each a descendant of another, that emerged over the course of about 3500 years. My R1a-YP4248 Project (which includes my Cooleys) also started with a large YP4248 haplogroup likely not much more than a thousand-plus years old. We now know mine is of Scandinavian origin and likely arrived in England with two groups of related Vikings. We've been testing for a several years and presently sit at 33 Big Y testers. That testing has broken the original block into a great many chunks. How that happens is beyond the scope of this report, but the point is simply that through more testing, more detail will emerge. That your block is so huge suggests your Bennetts are the first to test of this very ancient lineage. I suspect they might have been of a comparatively recent migration from France, perhaps during the Norman Conquest, but genetic testing for this purpose is illegal in France. If the vast majority of the descendants are still there, we may never learn about the upper reaches of the block. (It's my personal luck that Scandinavians are okay with testing.) Still, if your ancestor arrived with William of Normandy, say, relatives likely came along with him. Therefore, there may be Bennetts and non-Bennetts alike (surnames did not begin to come about in England until the 14th century) that will one day test positive for your haplogroup, BY172987.

Among the present two Big Y testers are only three unmatched SNP markers (of 57 million). These are called personal variants, sometimes called private variants — PVs, novel SNPs, and more — and are markers that have not yet been matched to any other tester. (Simply, one of the two testers has them but the other doesn't.) Statistically, this could mean that the common ancestor might have been living at around 1800. In fact, Lewis Bennett was born in 1803. In other words, the 35 markers of that big block emerged between about 2300 BC to about 1800 AD! I think we can do much better than that.

Wordy, I know. And with only two testers, there's not much to say except to try to convey how and why this works. Hopefully, you've picked up on the gist of it and have an idea about the enormous value Y-DNA testing presents us. But here's the kicker. The Y-DNA of the Blackwater Bennetts, who have also claimed descent from the Wiveliscombe Bennetts, does not match yours. (There's a 6,000 year difference.) The problem now is in determining which has the better claim and whether, for that matter, one resulted from the other through a non-paternal event (NPE, i.e. adoption, illegitimate birth, etc). But this is something I dearly want to sort out. Not only to properly identify Governor Bennett's Y-DNA for future genealogical research, but because he's of some historic note in colonial Virginia and Maryland (not to mention his more famous descendants). I hope, eventually, to write an academic paper presenting the results.

The Wiveliscombe Genealogy

As genealogists, we should remember that the assumptions we often make for research in U.S. counties cannot be made for the counties in Britain. Most of ours are only 200 to 300 years old, some even younger, and only a very small number can date back 400 years. On the other hand, counties in England are many hundreds of years old, if not former kingdoms. Although Europeans have been here for barely 400 years, the vast majority of American immigrants came much more recently. After all, it's estimated that in 1750 there were 1.5 million people in the colonies, roughly the present day population of Montana. So, when we find a family, say named Duncan, in a county during the late 1700s through the 1800s, it's often a decent bet that all Duncans present might have been related to one another. In fact, years ago I was so bold as to suggest that the Pettits in Morgan County, Ohio (by about 1840) were of two camps and not related. However, Y-DNA is telling a different story. They were related. And that's often the story of America during much of the movement west. That assumption can help streamline our genealogy back to the Revolution.

That's not the story in England. Englanders have not only been there for a very long time, a large percentage were present at the creation of surnames, many adopted from a variety of sources (think Taylor, Smith, Little, Brown, and possibly even Cooley — from cow field!). Wholly unrelated people assumed the same surname. Already, the Bennett DNA project has illustrated that a great many Bennetts were not even remotely related. After all, Gertrude Stein never said, "A Bennett is a Bennett is a Bennett!" The upshot is that such genealogical assumptions made in the U.S. cannot be made in regards to England. For that matter, neither is it a good assumption for the early colonial American era. People came here (and to Virginia) from virtually everywhere in the British Isles.

So, looking to county Somerset between the years 1500 and 1699, Bennetts are found in the record for at least 43 towns. It's highly unlikely they were of the same family.

Aller, Ashbrittle, Bath, Bridgwater, Cannington, Castle Cary, Chard, Cloford, Combe St Nicholas, Crewkerne, Curry Rivel, East Coker, Elworthy, Glastonbury, High Ham, Hinton Blewitt, Hinton Charterhouse, Ilminster, Isle Brewers, Keynsham, Langport, Luxborough, Lyng, Milverton, Newton St Loe, Northover, North Petherton, Othery, Podymore, Portishead, Ruishton, Staplegrove, Stogursey, Stoke St Gregory, Taunton, Thornfalcon, Timsbury, Wellington, Wells, West Buckland, Westonzoyland, Winsham, and Wiveliscombe

The fact that the future Virginia Colony governor, Richard Bennett, was from Wiveliscombe is mentioned in colonial records. That he was the nephew of Edward Bennett is pretty much all that was needed to find the family. Furthermore, several other factors for these men triangulate back to Somerset (and Wiveliscombe in particular) — in-laws and other families with which they had a connection, business and otherwise. That Wiveliscombe was the home for Edward and his nephew is a done deal.

Such certainty is a rarity for American colonial genealogy. As far as I know, none of the other Bennetts in earliest Virginia can be traced using colonial records. Yes, we know that a John Bennett was born in Wiveliscombe in 1624, but can we be certain your John was the same man? (It might well have been so!) It has been written as such by recent genealogists, but is there a will, deed, or other record that references property or family members in Wiveliscombe — or Somerset in general? There are some tantalizing clues but, as far as I know, they are just that.

I'm not specifically challenging the notion that Dr John Bennett was from Wiveliscombe, but it's something to think about. But let's carry the discussion forward by looking at some Somerset records and at the many Johns born throughout the county during the first decades of the 17th century.


John Bennett Christenings in Somerset, 1600-1650
(Sorted by Place)

NameChr/BapPlaceParents
John BennettMay 1636___, SomersetDavid Bennett, Eliz
John Bennet8 February 1637___, SomersetRobert Bennet, Mary
John Bennett1 January 1632AllerRobert Bennett
John Bennett14 February 1608Ashbrittle
Joane Bennett28 February 1643Bath Abbey Cemetery, BathGeorge Bennett, Joane
John Bennett17 May 1604Bridgwater
John Bennett23 February 1605BridgwaterJohn Bennett, Agnes
John Bennet26 November 1602CanningtonRichard Bennet
Johane Bennet29 September 1611Cannington
Johan Bennet4 March 1614Cannington
Johan Bennett29 August 1625CanningtonAne Bennett
John Bennet25 March 1626CanningtonJohn Bennet
John Benet27 September 1601Castle CaryWalter Benet
John Benet29 April 1632ClofordJoseph Benet
John Benet24 December 1637ClofordJoseph Benet, Francis
John Bennote18 October 1601CrewkerneWalter Bennote
John Bennet28 January 1617GlastonburyRob Bennet
Joannes Bennett13 July 1645High HamJo Bennett, Jdithe
Johannes Banet28 June 1635Hinton BlewittJohannes Banet, Agnetis
John Benet25 November 1621IlminsterRichard Benet
John Bennett19 May 1629Isle BrewersGeorge Bennett
Johannes Bennet13 September 1607LangportJohannes Bennet
John Bennett14 May 1636LuxboroughDavid Bennett, Elynor
Johane Bennete26 June 1607MilvertonThomas Bennete, Annastice
John Bennet9 February 1610MilvertonThomas Bennet, Anstice
John Rooke or Bennet20 May 1616North PethertonAndrewe Rooke or Bennet
John Bennett3 July 1616North PethertonJohn Bennett
John Bennet22 April 1649North PethertonJo. Bennet, Jone
John Bennett16 December 1647OtheryJohn Bennett
John Bennets28 July 1636RuishtonNicholas Bennets
John Benett1 February 1607Stoke St GregoryThomas Benett
John Bennett24 January 1638Stoke St GregoryThomas Bennett
John Benet13 October 1611TauntonJames Benet
John Bennett3 July 1620TauntonJohn Bennett
John Bennett12 August 1621WellingtonGeorge Bennett
Joannes Bennet26 September 1605WinshamStephani Bennet
Joannes Bennette28 January 1612WinshamJacobi Bennette
John Bennet1621WinshamAmos Bennet
John Bennett9 March 1621Winsham
John Bennet3 April 1622WinshamJohn Bennet
John Bennet20 June 1623Winsham
John Bennett20 July 1623WinshamWilliam Bennett
John Bennett20 January 1625WinshamPhillip Bennett
John Bennett12 January 1630WinshamJohn Bennett
John Bennett3 June 1636WinshamJohn Bennett, Agnes
John Bennet5 June 1636WinshamJohn Bennet, Agnes
John Bennet22 October 1637WinshamJohn Bennet, Joane
John Benet18 October 1643WinshamJohn Benet, Marie
Johane Bennett7 July 1614WiveliscombeThomas Bennett
John Bennet10 June 1624WiveliscombeThomas Bennet

There are Johns for Wellington, 1621; Winsham for 1621, 1622, 1623, and 1625. If we bracket those years, there are a great many options. In other words, a man who died in 1668 might well have been born as early as 1601.

Just for the record, I pulled in a much larger time range for Thomas Bennetts. After all, the name is much more frequent in the Wiveliscombe than is John, and not all of their birth can be accounted for in the town's records.

Thomas Bennett Christenings in Somerset, 1500-1699
(Sorted by Place)

NameChr/BapPlaceParents
Thomas Bennett21 July 1616 ___, SomersetEdward Bennett
Thomas Bennet23 May 1697 Bath Thomas Bennet, Mary
Thomas Bennett20 January 1602 Bridgwater
Thomas Bennett24 August 1602 Bridgwater
Thomas Bennett22 March 1605 Bridgwater Thomas Bennett, Agnes
Thomas Bennet5 November 1633 Bridgwater Georgii Bennet, Joanna
Thomas Benet8 June 1651 Cannington Thomas Benet, Joane
Thomas Bennet28 December 1688 Cannington Joane Bennet
Thomas Bennet21 May 1567 Castle Cary Thomas Bennet
Thomas Bennet1598 Castle Cary Walter Bennet
Thomas Bennet1678 Combe St Nicholas Thomas Bennet, Mary
Thomas Bennet25 February 1666 Curry Rivel Thomas Bennet, Edith
Thomas Bennett27 November 1636 Chard George Bennett, Margaret
Thomas Bennat1 November 1575 East Coker Thomas Bennat
Thomas Bennett14 June 1699 Elworthy Hugh Bennett
Thomas Bennett25 September 1668 Glastonbury Walter Bennett
Thomas Benet10 March 1556 Hinton Charterhouse William Benet
Thomas Benet30 May 1558 Hinton Charterhouse Johes Benet
Thomas Benet4 November 1581 Hinton Charterhouse
Thomas Bennitt13 November 1699 Ilminster George Bennitt
Thomas Benet22 January 1682 Keynsham William Benet
Thomas Bennett22 July 1651 Keynsham Peter Bennett
Thomas Bennet30 November 1696 Lyng Thomas Bennet
Thomas Benett27 August 1559 Milverton
Thomas Benett1 May 1575 Milverton William Benett
Thomas Benett21 April 1579 Milverton Richard Benett
Thomas Benete8 September 1649 Newton St Loe Walter Benete
Thomas Bennett3 October 1619
Death 23 December 1624
North Petherton Robert Bennett
Thomas Bennett21 December 1552 Northover Ralfe Bennett
Thomas Bennett6 December 1694 PodymoreTemplemanni Bennett, Hester
Thomas Benett20 November 1605 Portishead Thomas Benett
Thomas Bennett3 December 1696 Ruishton Thomas Bennett, Joan
Thomas Benett15 May 1642 Staplegrove Symon Benett, Usselaw
Thomas Bennet5 June 1680 Stogursey Hugh Bennet, Jane
Thomas Bennet15 October 1681 Stogursey Hugh Bennet, Jane
Thomas Bennett5 November 1615 Taunton Hugh Bennett
Thomas Bennett11 January 1628 Taunton James Bennett
Thomas Bennet29 July 1691 Taunton William Bennet, Grace
Thomas Bennett26 September 1630 Thornfalcon Nicholas Bennett
Thomas Bennet9 January 1646 Timsbury Mathew Bennet, Anne
Thomas Bennett2 April 1637 Wellington John Bennett, Amy
Thomas Bennett26 December 1691 Wellington Petter Bennett, Sara
Thomas Bennett25 December 1692 Wellington Thomas Bennett, Dority
Thomas Bennett3 April 1695 Wellington Thomas Bennett
Thomas Bannet17 August 1628 Wells Thomas Bannet
Thomas Bennett26 December 1680 West Buckland Thomas Bennett, Margaret
Thomas Bennett22 September 1688 West Buckland Thomas Bennett, Joane
Thomas Benet10 May 1575 Westonzoyland
Thomas Bennett2 April 1570 Wiveliscombe Robert Bennett
Thomas Bennett29 November 1603 Wiveliscombe Thomas Bennett
Thomas Bennet3 December 1620 Wiveliscombe Thomas Bennet
Thomas Bennete4 February 1648 Wiveliscombe Richard Bennete

I'll leave that there for now.

Here are all the recorded Bennett events in Wiveliscombe that I can find. They're arranged by name so that we can track a person's life inside town.

Wiveliscombe Bennetts By Name

NameEventDateYearOther Parties
___ BennettBaptism1 August1563Robert Bennett
___ BennettBaptism1653John Bennett, Cicily
Agnes BennettBaptism1 August1563Roger Bennett
Agnes BennettBurial2 August1598
Agnes BennettBaptism23 November1606William Bennett
Agnes BennetMarriage26 June1632Robert Rodes
Agnes BennetBurial20 September1638
Allies BennettBurial22 April1669
Dorothy BennettBaptism15 April1615William Bennett
Dorothie BennettBaptism29 December1635Symon Bennett, Agnes
Doratie BennettMarriage4 May1643Edward Hill
Edward BennettBaptism27 January1617William Bennett
Edward BennettBaptism2 February1577Robert Bennett
Eleanor BennettBaptism5 March1567Robert Bennett
Eleanor BennetMarriage7 October1594Richard Harris
Elizabeth BennettBaptism31 May1562Robert Bennett
Elizabeth BennettBaptism7 December1578John Bennett
Elizabeth BennettBurial28 June1597
Elizabeth BennettBaptism3 August1605Thomas Bennett
Elizabeth BennettBurial25 December1605
Elizabeth BennettBaptism31 August1617Thomas Bennett
Elizabeth BennetBurial12 July1637
Emmote BennettBaptism14 December1615Thomas Bennett
Emmet BennetBurial27 October1622
Grace BenattBaptism1653Richard Benatt, Mary
Grace BennettBurial27 June1659
Joane BennettBaptism25 April1604William Bennett
Joane BennettBurial21 August1616
Johan BennettBaptism1 March1566Robert Bennett
Johan BennettBaptism7 January1580John Bennett
Johan BennettBaptism8 January1574Robert Bennett
Johan BennettBurial12 January1574
Johan BennettBurial2 February1612Willm. Bennett
Johan BennettBurial2 February1622
Johan BennettBurial3 April1592
Johan BennettBurial7 February1580
Johan BennettBurial8 January1558
Johan BennettBurial8 July1568
Johane BennettBaptism7 July1614Thomas Bennett
John BennetBaptism10 June1624Thomas Bennet
John BennetBurial29 May1561
John BennettBaptism22 April1561Robert Bennett
John BennettBaptism25 March1566Robert Bennett
John BennettBurial17 October1601
Lawrence BennetBaptism10 October1622Thomas Bennet
Margery BennettBaptism25 March1560Robert Bennett
Margery BennettBurial3 December1564
Marvell BenetBaptism7 March1618Thomas Benet
Mary BennetBaptism18 July1650Richard Bennet
Mary BennetMarriage11 June1687Thomas Decon
Mary BennettBaptism15 September1611Thomas Bennett
Mary BennettBaptism25 June1609William Bennett
Mary BennettBurial2 January1684
Phelip BennetChristening7 November1630John Bennet
Philipe BennettBaptism22 May1611Thomas Bennett
Phillip BennetBaptism4 March1626Thomas Bennet
Richard BennetMarriage12 January1647Mary Stevens
Richard BennettBaptism6 August1609Thomas Bennett
Richard BennettBaptism11 August1609Thomas Bennett
Richard BennettChristeningOctober1609Thomas Bennett
Richard BennettBaptism1 November1609Thomas Bennett
Richard BennettBaptism9 October1573Robert Bennett
Richard BennettBurial6 October1673
Robert BennettBaptism10 May1582John Bennett
Robert BennettBaptism1 February1601Thomas Bennett
Robert BennettBaptism27 April1571Robert Bennett
Robert BennettBaptism29 December1611William Bennett
Robert BennettBurial19 September1603
Robert BennettBurial1 March1685
Robert BennettBurial22 October1676
Robert BennettMarriage10 July1558Elizabeth Edney
Rychard BennettBaptism21 January1625Thomas Bennett
Rychard BennettBurial21 January1625
Symon BennettBurial20 March1636
Thomas BenneteBaptism4 February1648Richard Bennete
Thomas BennetBaptism3 December1620Thomas Bennet
Thomas BennetMarriage17 July1623Agnes Beard
Thomas BennettBaptism29 November1603Thomas Bennett
Thomas BennettBaptism2 April1570Robert Bennett
Thomas BennettBurial23 December1608
Thomas BennettBurial26 September1616
Ursula BennettBurial26 December1697
William BennetBaptism21 March1606Thomas Bennet
William BennetBaptism23 July1620William Bennet
William BennettBaptism15 June1572Robert Bennett
William BennettBurial16 July1642
William BennettBurial28 June1638
Xpofer BennettBaptism6 May1576Robert Bennett

By grouping the same data by parents, families auto-magically emerge.

Wiveliscombe Bennett Christenings By Parents


John

Elizabeth Bennett7 December1578John Bennett
Johan Bennett7 January1580John Bennett
Robert Bennett10 May1582John Bennett

John 2 (1580 Johan?)

Phelip Bennet7 November1630John Bennet
___ Bennett1653John Bennett, Cicily

Roger

Agnes Bennett1 August1563Roger Bennett

Richard

Thomas Bennete4 February1648Richard Bennete
Mary Bennet18 July1650Richard Bennet
Grace Benatt1653Richard Benatt, Mary

Robert, son of John

Margery Bennett25 March1560Robert Bennett
Elizabeth Bennett31 May1562Robert Bennett
John Bennett22 April1561Robert Bennett
Bennett1 August1563Robert Bennett
Johan Bennett1 March1566Robert Bennett
John Bennett25 March1566Robert Bennett
Eleanor Bennett5 March1567Robert Bennett
Thomas Bennett2 April1570Robert Bennett
Robert Bennett27 April1571Robert Bennett
William Bennett15 June1572Robert Bennett
Richard Bennett9 October1573Robert Bennett
Johan Bennett8 January1574Robert Bennett
Xpofer Bennett6 May1576Robert Bennett
Edward Bennett2 February1577Robert Bennett

Symon

Dorothie Bennett29 December1635Symon Bennett, Agnes

Thomas (1570-1616), probable son of Robert

Robert Bennett1 February1601Thomas Bennett
Thomas Bennett29 November1603Thomas Bennett
Elizabeth Bennett3 August1605Thomas Bennett
William Bennet21 March1606Thomas Bennet
Richard Bennett6 August1609Thomas Bennett
Richard Bennett11 August1609Thomas Bennett
Richard BennettOctober1609Thomas Bennett
Richard Bennett1 November1609Thomas Bennett
Philipe Bennett22 May1611Thomas Bennett
Mary Bennett15 September1611Thomas Bennett
Johane Bennett7 July1614Thomas Bennett
Emmote Bennett14 December1615Thomas Bennett

Thomas - origins unclear

Elizabeth Bennett31 August1617Thomas Bennett
Marvell Benet7 March1618Thomas Benet
Thomas Bennet3 December1620Thomas Bennet
Lawrence Bennet10 October1622Thomas Bennet
John Bennet10 June1624Thomas Bennet
Rychard Bennett21 January1625Thomas Bennett
Phillip Bennet4 March1626Thomas Bennet

William, probable son of Robert

Joane Bennett25 April1604William Bennett
Agnes Bennett23 November1606William Bennett
Mary Bennett25 June1609William Bennett
Robert Bennett29 December1611William Bennett
Dorothy Bennett15 April1615William Bennett
Edward Bennett27 January1617William Bennett
William Bennet23 July1620William Bennet

A lot of hay can be made of this. First note that Richard, son of Thomas was baptized four times in 1609! How do we explain that?

Here are the few events found for the Thomases in Wiveliscombe of the era.

Thomases of Wiveliscombe

Thomas BennettChristening2 April 1570Robert Bennett
Thomas BennettChristening29 November 1603Thomas Bennett
Thomas BennettBurial23 December 1608Thomas Bennett
Thomas BennettBurial26 September 1616
Thomas BennetChristening3 December 1620Thomas Bennet
Thomas BennetMarriage17 July 1623Agnes Beard

There were three Thomases born in Wiveliscombe during this period. I'll talk about Thomas 1620 in a bit. It's my believe that the other two died as indicated above. But any way we cut it, there had to be at least three Thomases. The 1608 burial for "Thomas son of Thomas" seems clear to me. If so, where did the Thomas who started a family in 1617 come from? Indeed, if the first Thomas 1570 wasn't the Thomas who died in 1616, we'd first have yet another mystery death and would have to wonder whether Thomas 1570 had children continuously though Phillip 1623 with Agnes having been his second wife. He'd have been only 56. However, he already had a son named Richard so that doesn't work. It's more likely there were two Thomases with large families.

Here's another mystery relevant to the present genealogy for John. There's a parish record in St Sepulchre (London) regarding the death of a Thomas Bennett, 1668 (aged 64-65). That would put his birth somewhere around 1603 and 1604. The original record, which I've not seen, is found on microfilm through the LDS which should be examined to assure the accuracy of the transcription. And the additional parish records from there need to be examined for further mention of Thomas and his family. I greatly fear (and this happens a lot) that some overzealous genealogist simply matched the name and presumed birth date to the Wiveliscombe birth of a boy who, I believe, died as a child. Nevertheless, I find nothing to indicate that the man of St Sepulchre was the Thomas Bennett of Wiveliscombe. Perhaps some of you have additional information.

In brief, the following questions need to be answered.

If these questions can't be answered via the record, there's the genetic record that may well provide some answers, and research on that has only begun. Indeed, social conventions (such as surnames) are murky, as is genealogy itself. But biology is forever, so to speak. I wouldn't bank on most genealogies further back than about 1800 unless their supremely documented, but I would the DNA. For now, we know the Y-DNA for at least three Virginia Bennett families. None match one another. There will likely be more such mismatches as we move along.

My objective is, as stated, to find Governor Richard Bennett's Y. (We could dig up his grandson, burial place known, but good luck with that!) Otherwise, we need a living descendant of a fullproof relative. Of course, your goal is to see how you connect to one another and to verify the lineage back to England, Wiveliscombe or otherwise. Our goals neatly dovetail.

So, to help us in our mutual interest, I've started another study. Richard's uncle Edward Bennett, who lived in Virginia for a year only after his two brothers died, returned to England once his nephew, the 21 year-old Richard, was ready to assume the duties of managing Edward's business interests in Virginia. Edward was married to Mary Bourne, also of Somerset, whose father, Jasper Bourne a well-to-do business man, had moved to London. Jasper's will mentions the Bennett brothers John (the older who had married Jasper's daughter Elizabeth) and Edward Bennett who had married Elizabeth's sister Mary. I haven't been able to pick up John's trail, but the majority of Edward's children's baptisms appear in the parish records of St Olave, Hart St, London. St Olave (St Olaf) is one of the oldest churches in London, and the smallest. It's near the Thames River and had the great fortune of surviving the Great London Fire of 1666 — by a mere 100 feet, thanks to a shift in the wind. We're lucky, then, that its records still exist.

Edward already had four older children baptized at London churches, St Dunstan in the East and St Bartholomew by the Exchange. Whether he moved or simply changed churches, we don't know.


St. Olave Hart Street, London

Robert BennittChristening
12 April 1631
Richard Bennitt, Jane

Edward and Marie Bennett Family

Silvester BennittChristening
25 October 1630
Edward Bennitt, Marie
John BennittChristening
17 February 1632
Edward Bennitt, Marie
Elizabeth BennettChristening
3 July 1633
Thomas Bennett, Marye
Ann BennettChristening
13 March 1634
Edwarde Bennett, Marie
Jasper BennettChristening
July 1635
Edward Bennett, Marie

Thomas and Alice Bennett Family

Thomas BennettChristening
21 October 1652
Thomas Bennett, Alice
William BennettChristening
14 February 1654
Thomas Bennett, Alice
Marie BennittChristening
15 October 1655
Thomas Bennitt, Alice
Richard BennittChristening
December 1656
Thomas Bennitt, Alice
Edward BennittChristening
6 May 1660
Thomas Bennitt, Alice
Samuel BennitChristening
27 April 1662
Thomas Bennit, Alice

Edward (1660, son of Thomas) and Elizabeth Bennett Family

Sarah BennetChristening
11 December 1687
Edward Bennet, Elizabeth
Ellzabeth BennetChristening
20 January 1690
Edward Bennet, Elizabeth
Samuell BennettChristening
4 December 1692
Edward Bennett, Elizabeth
Mary BennettChristening
15 November 1695
Edward Bennett, Elizabeth

Marriages

Hanna BennetMarriage
1 August 1691
Edward Biddell
Sarah BennettMarriage
11 February 1704
Henry Warnes
Elizabeth BennettMarriage
8 June 1712
Walter Griggs
Mary BennettMarriage
3 December 1730
William Grant


There's a lot to be unpacked here. I suspect the Thomas who married Alice was the 1620 Wiveliscombe son of Thomas, but it's early to know for sure. The second Edward is likely the son of Thomas and Alice. It should be noted, though, that "Uncle" Edward and Mary had son named Edward baptized at St Dunstan in 1623. This is a good start toward extending the family forward.

Back at home, the first object for the descendants of John Bennett is to see just how everyone connects to one another. The two Big Ys are a good start and have the potential for considerable growth. For example, I'm also working on two Pettit families that arrived a little earlier than your John and are now proven not to have been brothers, as believed for a great many decades, Thomas Pettit, 1609 and John Pettit, 1808. Here's an early American Cooley clan, not mine, descended from or otherwise related to Benjamin Cooley, 1615. And finally (for now!) for immigrant William Strother who died in Virginia in 1702.

Not long after I started working with the Blackwater Bennetts I began a Bennett DNA group on Facebook, now named for the Somerset Bennetts but that could change: Somersetshire Bennetts.

We can do this! In the meantime, I'm always happy to answer questions.


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